boots better. Ive seen and worn many shoes over the years that were called burgundy, oxblood, or something similar, but I always felt they had nothing to recommend them over black or brown. Theyre really nice. Am I missing something? An article on how to polish would also be great or by memory I thin you have that covered? Thank you. Wouldnt you say that a black cordovan loafer is more casual than a black calf one, and perhaps comparable to a black suede one? The search continues for a boot that can go with nice denim and smarter trousers. BTW: I totally get your preference of color 8 over black. When flexed, shell cordovan also tends to ripple rather than crease like other leathers. Would you advise to work with black cream to darken it? More than one cordwainer has told me that he didnt like working with it. Is this material superior for avoiding creasing of the straps? NW1) and knitwear though. Cordovan can feel heavy, certainly. As for colour choice and material of the Alden loafer, what do you recommend? I wouldnt say that Alden is superior in terms of quality. You want to keep them in a dry and clean environment. It states Cordovan on the insole. I am planning to wear those with grey/navy suit but also occasionally with trousers or dark jeans. Any comments on these issues? Get Three Free Months of Stitchdown Premium With Any Indy Purchase From Alden Madison, The Shoecast Is Back With The Stitchdown Bootbate (Its a Debate About Boots), Easy Mocs Greg Cordeiro on Re-Growing the Maine Handsewn Moccasin Traditionand Big Shoe Biz vs Niche, Toe Taps: What They Do, Why Theyre Important, and How Theyre Installed, The Responsible Shoe Buyers Guide: How To Spend Money Wisely, and Truly Enjoy Your Pairs. If anything, Id say that Carmina is more cleanly made. I find it difficult to decide between going a full size of half from the regular UK size. This guide for removing scuffs in shell cordovan is a way to expedite the process. I do see above in the comments. No I think youre right Paul, there is only a very small difference there and it will look fine. No worries. Some water spots become more difficult to remove if you dont address them quickly. r/goodyearwelt Alden Whiskey Shell Longwings . BTW, Horween has produced very differing shades of colour #8 through the years. If my shoe size is UK 8.5 and most of my trousers leg openings are 18.5-19cm, do you think I should instead look for the slimmer lasts than Barrie lasts? Coming up on the PS Shop this Autumn/Winter, Tailoring for travelling: tough, comfortable, plain. Too much product becomes sticky and attracts dust and dirt. Id wear a wider trouser probably, and lean into that style. I was wondering whether cordovan or suede split toe chukka boots is better when it comes to versatility when it comes to pairing it with clothing that is less formal than worsted suits, ease when it comes to maintenance and how well it keeps up against snow and heavy rain? The colour is, I think a brown/burgundy. I dont currently own either but I have held, tried and examined examples from both and, at least from the quality signs that such examination can discover, I have to say that it seemed to me as though Carmina had the upper hand. Would you say the van or abeerden last is more suitable? Unfortunately Alden is also quite restrictive about international shipments and you cant order from the US to deliver to the UK. The reason is that while the waterproof nature might be the big attraction for you, it isnt for everyone or hasnt been the reason theyve been worn in the past. Thanks! Maybe Alden uses JR soles as well but, even then, there does not appear to be any advantage to Alden. Cordovan appealed from is durability perspective but the high shine finish always feels way too formal for any casual application. Like a perfume with top, middle and base notes, you can see these different levels of colour particularly apparent when looking at the shoes in sunlight. But then, if this works it seems silly to try something else. I have relatively slim legs compared to my feet width. And how many of the vegan alternatives are plastics that wont biodegrade. Sometimes, the people that do so like many farmers Ive met have more respect for the animals than anyone else. How do you find they look against more formal, refined trousers (e.g. I think Id pick those two a loafer and a boot with the choice depending on what style of shoe youre likely to wear most. After that, though, the quality of the leather, in particular, its resistance to stretching has meant that theyve molded to my feet without getting too loose. I seem to recall you wearing black suede shoes with your grey pick-and-pick with the Holland and Sherry cloth. Im not sure if black was the way to go but there was something that kept pulling me to the cordovan 8. Hi Jesper, I have had a pair of Alden loafers in colour 8 (which you rarely ever see in the wild where I live but feel hopelessly unoriginal after reading this article and the comments) for years and all I needed to do as you say is the occasional brush or rub down with a piece of cloth and keep them on shoe trees. You just brush or wipe it off. Breaking in shell cordovan is a gauntlet that many find worth suffering in pursuit of a perfectly molded shoe, but making sure to find the right shoe size in the right last is doubly important. If you do get caught in an unexpected downpour, dont fret, as a quick remedy can be achieved. Dear Simon! Designed by Out of the Sandbox. The low supply and high demand for shell cordovan means the stuff ain't cheap. Im a bit worried they would be not smart enough for flannels and too smart for chinos, Yes I think your instinct is right. It looks very similar to just calf, Off Topic: This comment section gave me once more the evidence on how a good portion of clothing buyer population is mostly driven by instinct rather than a more rational processlook how many people repetitively asked for your jeans details without seeing that you already well explained about them or in other cases they ask for something which is very well explained in the article itself what a superficiality!! Its also a very versatile shoe for dressing up or dressing down. I invested in my first pair of Alden Black Cordovan Tassel Loafer in January 1981 and still wear them today. Off the thread slightly, but Im now big into Lizard and other exotics. Required fields are marked *. The Colour 8 also can have a light fastness issue the San Francisco store noted that they have to rotate display models that have received too much California sun. Prototype meaning that its not available on BHL just yet? It is the oiled, worn-in look of cordovan that makes them work. Learn more through here. Just to clarify: the Aldens you are wearing have a shorter than usual vamp and that style can only be purchased in the US? Another model you might want to try is the monk strap. Yes, thats one of the better pros. Absolutely! Not really Im afraid. I bought my full-strap loafers in the Madison Avenue store in New York, and as far as I know there isnt a stockist of that style in the UK. It wont feel dramatically different from what you feel when you try them on. Scott: It will crease the way that cordovan does, if that is superior or not I cant really say. Shoesofstefan at Instagram. In general Id take the same size in those shoes/boots. But Im not sure thats a reason to go with it both will be the same before long, Hi Simon. Thats worth a read for detail on what cordovan actually is - more a membrane than a skin - and the work that goes into tanning it. In your article about your Belgravian loafer, you write, that these shoes are your favorite and most versatile shoes. I know you mentioned in this post, you prefer the slimmer lasts. Who should not buy Crockett & Jones. Or other reason? Why didnt you like your own cordovan shoes? What do I regret? AE has a low-vamp, penny loafer very similar to Aldens but half the price. Thanks John, great to have the recommendation. Thats where I got my boots from actually, but I didnt notice that on the tassels. Have a look at the way this Brycelands shirt fits for example. Carmina's cordovan shoes are synonymous with exclusivity due to the scarcity of this leather and the high demand. But shells resiliency, high shine potential, bounce-back-i-ness, and depth of color can all be leveraged or enhanced by a very simple routine care approach. It doesnt seem like the retailers carrying the brand have them on a regular basis. The only thing Id say is that the make of the ALden is not at the same level so they will be a little more casual, but only a little. Its not an Alden thing, by the way - its the same with my Edward Green black cordovan (shown below). Cordovan will not really stretch on its own. I bought the Alden Plain Toe Blucher in Colour 8 at the San Francisco Alden in 2016, and returned to the same shop for the Black version in 2017. In terms of patina, the range of tones goes from a deep burgundy to mahogany that I find really appealing. The Process: Preparing Brush the uppers briskly with a pig bristle brush Repeat with a horse hair brush until all dust and surface dirt is removed Gentle Cleaning Apply the neutral cream in circular motions using a clean cotton cloth with light to medium pressure Ive also ordered Cordovan belts (other colours). Take care. Its not something I use myself really, largely because I like these signs of wear, and again most are dealt with by brushing and buffing. i think all i need is another 3-4mm wider. And ideally a darker no8 shade, but not as big a factor. Cleverley made me some boots with cordovan around the bottom and a hatch grain calf at the top. Not a good reason for poor quality but perhaps enabling factors. It looks almost as if some patina artist (think Berluti) had a go at them. Shell Cordovan is a very specific type of leather that comes from the shell membrane of a horse butt. For that approach, a neutral cream offers the same protection and conditioning benefits of a colored cream, but without any additional pigmentation. It would be hard to go wrong with a work boot with jeans Amit. Thank you! I guess one factor in the generalisation is that outside the US, we mostly see the more casual models. I had been trying to buy some Alden Indy boots in cigar shell and for months none appeared on eBay, Grailed or Styleforum. Heinrich Dinkelacker's Cordovan Highlights. Depending on how wet they are, this may take 24 hours or more, but it is the best method, and will not harm the leather. Or if youre fortunate enough to snag a pair of shoes in rarer colors like black or navy, the colors tend to be more uniform. Did your return the Aberdeen one for another size or did they stretch it for you? In early June, I left them out when it rained a bit. https://www.crockettandjones.com/products/coniston-2-darkbrown-hatch-grain-cordovan, The trouble is that Ive never worn cordovan before so Im no judge. Hi Simon Thanks. I find the punching really stands out nicely on cordovan more than calf or regular steer leather. Finally, even scratches and nicks can be rubbed out to an extent, with the help of a deer bone (shown above, at Ludwig Reiter). My shoe repair person told me You will be buried in these shoes. Their lasts are generally pretty wide and accommodating. The Stitchdown Premium Discord live-chat is waiting for you. Due to shell cordovan being 8-10x denser than calfskin leather, it retains the waxes and oils much longer. Unless youre looking for a shade of lavender, though, you should be good. Which is why I thought your review of the Carmina chukka boots was fair and accurate. As mentioned in the article, I think its that versatility that enables it to bridge formal and casual a bit. I wore them until the welt could not stand up to another repair. Its something I will look at correcting at some point, perhaps by stretching them a little. And very marginally higher on the Alden tassel than the full strap too. Ive only seen the exact style on sale in the US, yes, but that could change it depends what other Alden stockists decide to order. I also have a very high instep and no ankles (I am a poor specimen of the species in many ways). I have been looking to buy Cordovan 8 Alden Full Strap.I have tried Steffan. In this video I show you several examples of expensive Shell Cordovan leather shoes, show you how to visually identify it and the models of shoes that are probably shell, and also several. Currently at 260, I feel like I cant really beat AEs quality at this price point. Alex, To be honest Ive generally preferred the Alden cordovan. Yes, Id say Alden is my preferred brand, though theres some discussion about pluses and minuses of them in the comments above. Theyre also a bit smaller in the waist, but thats a fit thing, not a style one, 2. No I wouldnt. I especially enjoy it punched and brogued. They simpy cost too much to take the chance, in my view. But whether it was the best choice depends a lot on what you else you wear? Is too little a thing? Others undoubtedly picked up Allen Edmonds Park Avenues. I have an old pair of C&J Harvards (unlined cordovan pennyloafers btw are all cordovan shoes unlined?) Notify me of follow-up comments by email. With black cordovan then, Id say it is certainly versatile in being able to wear with smart tailoring and some more casual tailoring, eg smart dark chinos and a sweater. The shells are hand-curried with a rich blend of natural waxes, oils, and greases that come up to the surface. Follow him here. Whats good to know is that the cordovan that is delivered from Horween with its natural surface, is very sensitive to water, and easily gets stained and bad looking. Dark brown suede is versatile and I love it, but not quite the same edge to it. Maybe inside a humidor??? Simon I just received a pair of Alden Cordovan chukkas, do you recommend shoe trees for storage? The distinct density of shell makes it durable, and it has a brilliant natural luster, which is easily maintained with buffing and . I think the biggest thing that put me off most was just that normal, calf leather seemed more exciting. Do you send them back to Aldens factory in the US or do you use a local service? Any thoughts? 1) Can I say cordovan shoes can be worn with both black and brown belts alike in most outfits? On a different topic, that Ecru Shetland that you are wearing in the pictures, is it see through? Maybe stick to wearing the Alden with slightly thick socks and hope the toebox moulds to my feet? Would you consider adding any cordovan accessories? I would say in terms of versatility. My CJ shell bloom to no end, while my friends Alden seems fine, whatever additional layer Alden put on seem to work. Would love to see an article on types of shoe leathers (wallets, belts, etc.). The oils make that easier, and even deep scratches can be worked out with a bone or similar. Ive been retired for a few years. Please. Thanks! I have had some of my old shells recrafted by a local cobbler who did excellent work until he retired last month. This week: shell cordovan shoes. Well, it depends a little on how they make, but far more on your size and height. After taking them off for the day, use a damp cloth for a quick wipedown. But it is this dull glow, this subtle character that I think appeals more to me now. They have burgundy, dark brown and black Lovely though the Aldens look, the associated hassle and inflated costs of getting them over the pond are significant deterrents for now. Picture: Alden of San Diego. I found this pair of Aldens in our archives shortly after I started back at the tannery full time - sometime in early 2009. Im somewhat surprised that youve gotten over this aspect yourself and somewhat wish I could follow suit. Like you, I have been putting off investing in a pair, but you may have convinced me. It too is casual, and in a smart office I wouldnt wear it with a smart suit. Gabucci in Sweden has the tassel loafer, which is my second-favourite Alden loafer. Alden Mahogany Shell Cordovan NST . Yes thats right. They were one of the best pieces of footwear I have ever worn; always smart and shiny in the the Cherry Black that you describe. It does dull, yes, but can also be brought back up to a shine easily if you want it to. Many thanks in advance! Yes, water spotting is common with shell cordovan. Hi simon thanks. The difference for calf is much smaller when its black, Hi Simon Is it in general or specifically their cordovan? There are post forwarding companies, if the extra cost and hustle are worth it (cheaper than travelling, and currently available). I am considering buying a pair of cordovan loafer, but I am not sure, which to go for. Id find it far too scratchy against the skin with anything less underneath anyway. I recommend doing so - with a cloth - before you wear them or when you want them to look particularly good. Is Alden your preferred brand? I was hoping to get the benefit of your advise. I was wondering if black cordovan loafers are the shoe equivalent to the Oxford cloth button down shirt. Saphir . Please do let me know what are your thoughts on the last and style of this particular boot and how I intend to style it with the pair of jeans I own mentioned here. Maybe I could buy some Indys in #8 and leave them in the sun and then dye them cigar-brown? Probably the NW1 in most respects. Or do you stay away from cordovan? Thats what I thought too. You can see that in these images with my Blackhorse Lane denim. Ignoring any particular gaps in ones collection, what shoes types do you think are most versatile when made from cordovan? Ive avoided all creams, but rub and buff with standard kiwi polish and use trees to keep the shape. And, scuffs, are dealt-with through heat and friction rubbing out. Definitely my favorite shoes. But the point is not just putting fat/oil on. Why the Hell Do All These Workboot Makers Call Their Derbies Oxfords? Lots of details above in the comments sorry, too much to repeat here! On very large or very tall men, there might be issues. Ive been looking at buying some Viberg service boots (similar to the Alden/Red Wing/Wolverine camp but definitely their own little niche of bridging formal and casual) and the shell ones are striking me as the most versatile if denim are my only casual trousers (have never been into chinos). That's the leather's fat getting expressed through the surface. I will confess (and so would my father) that we have many more fine pairs of shoes than one deserves. I guess it might be your feet, but then again I havent worn mine for 12 years either. They may the second largest producer after Horween. I have the same question as the guy above:-) Just so that I understand you correctly Simon: the Alden loafers you are wearing are a size 9 US/D width? PS Presents 23: Arterton, LEJ, Marrkt, Fox and Rubato, Click on an image to enlarge. I have very narrow heels and broader width at the front. What do you think of cordovan shoes made by UK manufacturers like Crocketts? how would you compare your EG (pictured above), the classic Alden tassel loafer on the Aberdeen last and the full strap in terms of the vamp? Hi, Thank you kindly. Its generally not possible to do much. https://viberg.com/products/service-boot-cap-toe-horween-dark-cognac-shell-cordovan. Hi, Thank you. In the winter, I will wipe my shoes with a damp cloth at the end of the day to remove any salt, a Chicago-type climate concern. Someone made this comment above Alex. I think its worth looking closely into the economics of it Casey. Alden seem to have a large love-hate following online which has so far made me steer clear of them (even though I really like the darker shade of their col 8), but Ive been looking to purchase a pair of cordovan loafers a while now myself. Ive seen some people in more casual cities pull off balmorals or derby boots like a Galway with quality denim, but Im a little young to pull off that kind of boot in general. What would be your thoughts about cordovan colour 8 wholecut? It doesnt make much difference whether you brush shoes the same day or the next day. Oh, I remember that from your Stockholm article now that you mention it. At that time I dont think any UK shoe manufacturers sold cordovan. Michael, I wouldnt personally Michael. Yes, I think makers that arent used to it will avoid it if they can. Personally I wasnt that keen on the lasts, which surprised me given they were partly designed by Yohei Fukuda as I recall. You also mentioned brushing them the day you wear them. Cordovan is more durable. My feet get very hot, and Ive noticed a small difference in my boots, but certainly nothing in my loafers. That is a great loafer and a versatile colour. As a long time fan of both Alden and Cordovan, Im glad to see youre a convert. I put a tiny bit of Saphir Renovateur on scratches and buff them out. On the contrary, I found Carminas work to be much cleaner in the pairs Ive checked. 9E in the Barrie. #1. Indeed, traditionally it was considered a formal leather, to wear with tailoring rather than denim. Unfortunately its completely not what I expected in terms of fit. The purple/black colour is dark enough to go with lots of materials and styles of trousers, from denim to flannels. I havent tried it David, no. 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