You have yet to return the courtesy. Then somebody remarked that Mt Graham also hosts the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope, and that it is somewhat amusing that Mt Graham has both Vatican and Lucifer. Get personalized recommendations, and learn where to watch across hundreds of streaming providers. Web. Father Coyne stated that to convince him that he needed to see evidence of shrines and that he would not accept Apache oral history or statements by Apache-speaking Euro-Americans anthropologists. Im taking deep breaths as I finished reading this statement. Yikes! The church held most knowledge in books which had laboriously been handwritten by priests until then. Learn how your comment data is processed. One of Arizona's "Sky Islands," a sacred place to Apaches, has been damaged by development and a controversial observatory. 201 likes. Device and its purpose, read my original article below, originally posted on June 20, 2016. Apache elders filed suit in 1991 to halt the project, seven months later it was thrown out and construction began. (KJV). It focused on the ancient Prophecy of the Popes and the fact that the pontiff following Benedict XVI will be the final one on this mysterious list of popes, a prophecy that was concealed inside the secret vaults of the Vatican for hundreds of years and which many believe points to the arrival of the False Prophet of end-times infamy. So God created man ( not aliens) man created the telescope and the Vatican created the laws to enslave man. Doubt it Graham in Tucson. Mount Graham was one of the first parcels to be placed in the public domain. Then the information somehow degraded and the slur was born: Vatican astronomers are supposedly friends with Lucifer All The News That's Fit to Twist: Twisting Words Since 325CE. "@ronin19217435 I did know that and did you know the Vatican fought in Federal Court against The Apache Tribe and others to get the land on Mt. "There are so many commodities and useful resources in these lands. Riley said when the mountain is disturbed by anything that shouldn't be there, the holy elements the peak possesses are destroyed. "Apache Tribe Distressed by Privatization of Dacred Land." Arizona Daily Star.11 December 2014. To many, religious and otherwise, the question of who exactly Lucifer is an easy one to answer. As the Vatican Observatory Official Website explains: The coming of settlers from the East disrupted the Apache way of life forever. Due to Arizona's high elevation and clear skies, the VATT is just one among dozens of telescopes located in the state; as the Vatican Observatory website reports, Arizona is "where sky conditions are among the best in the world, and . Why? Nearly all major telescopes in use (including the Hubble Space Telescope) are reflecting telescopes. plus if they are only God minded why the interest in archeology and astronomy. Web. These early traditions of observational astronomy reached their climax in the mid-nineteenth century with the research of the Jesuit, Fr. The protection of the ecosystem remains crucially important to the San Carlos Apache because it is known as a place for collecting important medicinal plants, and preforming a variety of ceremonies important to their religious traditions. The Vatican Observatory does not own each piece of equipment nor can it give official names or nicknames to things it does not own. In addition there is a unique meteorite collection from which a knowledge of the early history of the solar system is being derived. Posted By: Steve Allen January 14, 2016. Bregel, Emily. Can anybody say tradition? (Stiles. One of the stake holders in the MGIO is a group of European institutes who built an infrared camera and spectroscope, and named it Lucifer. #24 Why Did So Many Apollo Astronots Die Mysterious Deaths in Just Three YearsTime? 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Although there is a possibility for the Director of the Vatican Observatory to have been confused by the different groups of the Apache, and thus unable to find believers of the mountains sacredness, it is unlikely for this to have been the case. And yes, its named for the Devil, whose name itself means morning star [and which] happens to be right next to the Vatican Observatory on Mt. If anyone believes that the Earth is flat they are stupid. AZ International Auto Show & New Car Buyer's Guide 2020 Model Year, 1986 draft environmental impact statement, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Theyve admitted themselves, however, that there is no other basis, besides the tradition of the early Fathers and later Catholic Commentators, for interpreting Isa 14:12 as an address to hasatan! They didnt become a one of the richest groups in the world on just donations. "Since time immemorial Apache people and Puebloan people have respected that mountain," Riley said. Even Satan doesn't known when it will happen and so he [], [] wolves calculate that one! Those tribal lands included the originalWhite Mountain, ChiricahuaandCamp Verde reservations, including a large portion of Mount Graham. May whoever searches here night and day the far reaches of space use it joyfully with the help of God. VATT is part of the Mount Graham International Observatory situated on Mount Graham in southeast Arizona, and is operated by the Vatican Observatory, one of the oldest astronomical research institutions in the world, in partnership with The University of Arizona. The planned Vatican telescope was part of an ambitious $200 million proposal from the University of Arizona to create Mount Graham International Observatory with 13 telescopes located on. Even Satan doesnt known when it will happen and so he [], [] Vatican L.U.C.I.F.E.R. Before pardoning Galileo in 1992, the Vatican, in 1979 set up a Galileo Study group. From that time and with some degree of continuity the Holy See has manifested an interest in and support for astronomical research. Lucifer, the Son This group consisted of members from local Audubon chapters, the Sierra club, and students residing at the University of Arizona. Tom Horn and Cris Putnam - It was approximately 11: AM (PST) as we rounded the final bend and saw just ahead the towering edifices housing the Large Binocular Telescope (LBT), an optical telescope for astronomy and currently one of the world's most advanced systems. ), (Protesters in the lobby of Ardrey Auditorium hand out fliers with information about their opinions concerning the observatory on top of Mt. Show Dangerous World Podcast, Ep 345. Graham in southeastern Arizona. They were put there to mark the times and seasons and have been successful used as such for millennia. The means through which they went about acquiring sacred Indian burial land is also another dark stain on the dark agenda of the Roman Catholics Jesuits to control all knowledge (and propaganda) about space. The church may not believe in this ancient law but its as old as the moon. MGIO is a division of Steward Observatory, the research arm for the Department of Astronomy at the University of Arizona . Also, when we look in the Latin Vulgates version of 2 Pe 1:19, the Greek word for morning-star (phosphoros) is translated as lucifer, indicating that the word lucifer was never intended to be understood as a proper name: Even the writers of the Catholic Encyclopedia admit the parable is expressly directed towards the King of Babel so why the Lucifer translation? Our brothers originally believed and taught that Isa 14:12 was an address to hasatan, in ignorance; however, upon knowledge of the truth we immediately adjusted. DziNchaaSi An, or Big Seated Mountain in Apache, is shown on most maps as Mount Graham. BTW, I am still waiting for you to point me to that curved water. The verse they cited, which allegedly corresponds with Isa 14:12, Luke 10:18, does not quote Isa 14:12, nor does it say Lucifer, Haylel, or any of the like. The weather forecast at the VATT is provided by the National Weather Service. Graham, critics wonder are the 'evil ones' planning a staged end times scenario By Greg Szymanski, JD April 23, 2010 The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced today it named its newest high-powered telescopic instrument 'Lucifer'. Notre Dame announced they will pay the University of Arizona $266,000 per night for six nights each year for telescope viewing on Mount Graham, notwithstanding repeated Apache protests of religious desecration. What if we showed you, however, that there is no Biblical Character by the name of Lucifer? Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Even incomplete, the project interferes with Native spiritual beliefs. Groups of up to six can reserve the 36-inch computerized telescope for a four-hour session. The only answer being that central casting and planning want it that way. The illusion created, connivingly convincing, has entranced the worlds population into blindly believing a maleficent myth. And they are nothing but propaganda for the state. For a little more than four decades astronomical research was carried out, including a prominent international program to map the whole sky. A Final Stand Seeks To Save Holy Apache Land In Arizona's High Desert. The Apache name for Mount Graham is Dzil Nchaa Si An. The theory that the character Lucifer is Hasatan has been a popular one in Christianity dating as far back as the 4th century. The spiritual value of Mount Graham to the Apache was not considered. Below are links to the optical and instrument specifications to assist observers. Was there an ulterior motive behind this? VATT The Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope. VATT The Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope. And not only within Christianity has this idea attained popularity, but within various occultist groups, particularly Satanism and Luciferianism, Satan and Lucifer are commonly used interchangeably. Graham in Arizona to mount a telescope there? The Apache regard the Mt. Graham. (Photo by Genevieve Clayton) (DiCosola, Maria. They are here for one reason, to try and falsify all things on the internet. And why is the Vatican interested and want to invest in something like this? Telescope. 2012. This mountain is home to a large diversity of animals that have come up from the heat of Mexico and down from the northern mountains of the Pinaleo mountain range. The National Optical Astronomy Observatories rejected Mount Graham years ago. The central sacred importance of Mount Graham has been known to the Mount Graham astronomers since 1968, long before the opening of the Vatican's telescope in 1993. The Large Binocular Telescope which is not affiliated with the Vatican Observatory is a pair of 8.4m telescopes side by side. Mount Graham Coalition, n.d. But the new residents of the Arizona territory called foul. Lucifer, which stands for, Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research, is a chilled instrument attached to the Large Binocular Telescope. People can begin asking the Hawaiians as they have sacred areas on their land and there are thousands of karmic stories available. I KNOW that. They were set in motion by a creator. In this July 22, 2015, file photo, tribal councilman Wendsler Nosie Sr., right, speaks with Apache activists in a rally to save Oak Flat, land near Superior, Arizona, sacred to Western Apache . The third is an empty building with the movable metal parts waiting in Italy and the mirrors incomplete in a UA production facility in Tucson. Global Nav Open Menu . Father Coyne stated that to convince him that the mountain was sacred he would need to see evidence of shrines and that he would not accept Apache oral history or statements by Apache-speaking Euro-American anthropologists. The Observatory is one of the oldest astronomical institutes in the world. Im patient. So what is this elusive LUCIFER Telescope? The Apache effectively remained both in their own minds and in the law, in possession of significant property rights to their territory, Welch said. An international consortium of astronomers composed of the Vatican, the Arcetri of Italy and the Max Planck Institute of Germany led by the University of Arizona has proposed multiple telescopes in the old-growth forest summit of Mr. Graham. Not only was this constructed, with great objection by the Apache Nation, on sacred ground, but left everyone with zero explanation as to naming it Lucifer! ..until the curtain is lifted, the mirror removed, and the smoke clears In 1997 the University of Arizona requested that all Apache's must apply for permission to pray 48 hours in advance. In addition the director of the Vatican Observatory claimed he was unable to find any authentic Apache who believed the mountain to be sacred, and who could prove the history of the mountains sacredness in any other form than orally. This federally-protected area is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, and features a National Forest Service public campground. Sacred Apache land 'on death row' in standoff with foreign mining titans Tribal members in Arizona are fighting to protect a piece of land they consider their "Mount Sinai." Apaches fight. When I also read, Jesuit Father George Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, indicated he could not find an authentic Apache who thought the mountain was sacred. </p> <p>To the Apache the ecology of the area is what makes the land sacred and it is not related to the western idea of a physical shrine. The Catholic Encyclopedia, claims it to have a deeper significance; hence this permits them to apply it to hasatan, even though it contradicts the context of the passage. This was followed by the build out of book publishing directed by the Vatican. Graham, critics wonder are the 'evil ones' planning a staged end times scenario The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced Teachers to the New Up and Coming Astronomers, The Vatican. This has been fun. One of those groups installed a telescope and briefly nicknamed one of its attachments "Lucifer" in. Lucifer is not hasatan, nor is it a proper name, but an honorific title given to the King of Babel meaning morning. WASHINGTON More than 100 conservation, Indigenous and religious groups urged Congress today to pass the Save Oak Flat Act to protect the sacred site in central Arizona from being destroyed by a massive copper mine.. Collaborating with the Steward Observatory, the Vatican Observatory built the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) on Mt. Graham, critics wonder are the 'evil ones' planning a staged end times scenario By Greg Szymanski, JD April 23, 2010 The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced today it named its newest high-powered telescopic instrument 'Lucifer'. These two tribes were the San Carlos Apache and the White Mountain tribe. Captivating comments from Jesuit priests like Guy Consolmagnoa leading astronomer who often turns up in media as a spokesman for the Vatican who has worked at NASA and taught at Harvard and MIT and who currently splits his time between the Vatican Observatory and laboratory (Specola Vaticana) headquartered at the summer residence of the Pope in Castel Gandolfo, Italy, and Mt. A full-motion simulator takes guests on a ride past Mt. All pictures, and stories of space come from NASA, yet little is heard from Vatican observatories as to their conclusions as to what their most sophisticated telescopes are finding. Web. Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research * what causes them to reverse course between large and smaller paths continually? vatican_observatory_castel_gandolfo Jesus is the Morning Star, not Lucifer. An Apache activist dancer performs in a rally to save Oak Flat, land near Superior, Ariz., sacred to Western Apache tribes, in front of the U.S. Capitol in Washington, Tuesday, July 22, 2015. Mount Graham was the free land . At the end of the following century, 151 locations in Italy had seen at one time printing activities, with a total of nearly three thousand printers known to be active. (RNS) In what they call a "holy war" to save their sacred site in Arizona known as Oak Flat, the Apache people have gathered in prayer with other Native American tribes, even those they've. In a solemn audience, held on 10 November 1979 before the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the College of Cardinals and the Diplomatic Corps to the Holy See, to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the birth of Albert Einstein, John Paul II requested that theologians, scholars and historians, animated by a spirit of sincere collaboration, will study the Galileo case more deeply This desire was concretized in the constitution by the Pope in July 1981 of a commission to coordinate the research of theologians, scientists and historians which would help to further clarify the events which occurred between Galileo and the Church and, more generally, the Ptolemaic Copernican controversy of the 16th and 17th centuries in which the Galileo affair is situated. All ongoing and future construction projects by the UA must be held to the standards of NEPA, NHPA, and President Clintons Executive Order 13007. The mexican spotted owl, Apache Trout, Pinaleo pocket gopher, long-tailed vole, and Northern Goshawk accompany the Mount Graham Red Squirrel on the endangered species list for animals residing in the area where the observatory was built. (McLeod, Corbin). That's where we find peace and comfort to pray in our quiet way.". Well, brace yourself, because we are going expose this myth for what it is! Jesuit Father George Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, indicated that he could not find an authentic Apache who thought the mountain was sacred. Where does it say the sun and moon hover, or whose research are you questioning? What causes your ball earth to spin, magic? (Source). Father Coyne further declared that Apache beliefs were a kind of religiosity to which I cannot subscribe and which must be suppressed with all the force we can muster. They controlled the information content, the scientists of astronomy were controlled by both the Vatican, as evidenced by Copernicus becoming a Roman Catholic priest in his later days, and the Royal Society of London, owned by the Crown of Engalnd. "It's where we go to gather our medicinal plants, to do prayers. Settler complaints that they would have no access to copper, silver, farmlands with water and timber resulted in the erosion of Apache lands and by the time the final cuts were made, Apache peoples possessed only 25% of what they had negotiated. Now, at a three-day meeting beginning Wednesday (Nov. 30), Apache Stronghold is hoping to unite its cause with other similar Native American groups that are working to preserve land they deem sacred. The Vatican set up one of the first observatories back in the 16th century and has continued to this day with the recent buildout of its newest observatory called LUCIFER, or LUCI, depending on what you read. The Trump administration is set to approve a controversial land swap, clearing the way for a giant copper mine to open beneath sacred Oak Flat. He was arrested in 1997 for trespassing when he was fleeing an oncoming thunderstorm using the construction road built for what the Apaches considered sacrilege: a telescope complex on the mountains peak. As one of the Southwest's "Sky Islands," it holds biological riches. Although this statement may be true, the San Carlos Apache are not alone in their fight to protect their sacred land. It would certainly destroy the doctrinal principles of religions which have sprung off the theoretical foundation that Lucifer is the devil especially those which deem their leaders infallible. Regardless of support from the National Council of Churches, the Presidents Advisory Council on Historical Preservation and the former president Bill Clinton on behalf of the respect for the Apache Cultural and Spiritual life the observatory still remains on Mount Graham. Spirit of Darknesss! The Vatican Observatory donated a radio telescope and loans several exhibits to the park, including an astrolabe made in 1608 and the Mertz Telescope, constructed in 1870 in Morocco. Isa 14:12 is the ONLY place the word Lucifer is EVER used in the Tanakh. 91-1350 PHXM WPC, April 6, 1992.). The Vatican did not name a telescope Lucifer. Currently the observatory remains as a working scientific research area that has been awaiting renewal for a permit since April of 2009. Several religious orders contributed personnel and directors to the Observatory, including Barnabites, Oratorians, Augustinians, and Jesuits. Prior to the appeal, congress had passed an act that exemplified the telescope project from the National Environmental Policy Act and the Endangered Species Act, thus resulting in the failure to immediately and permanently halt the telescope project. FREE New Book #9 The Bible for AwakeningTruthers. [] sacred sites (in the U.S.) have been used for telescopes and observatories, one of which is Mount Graham (guaranteed not the Apache name for that peak: actually it is called Dzil ncha si []. You have no knowledge of the place you are about to destroy, said Franklin Stanley, San Carlos medicine man, in a 1992 declaration. While construction of the projects first phase has continued, the entire Mount Graham mountain range was declared eligible for listing on the National Register of Historic Places as a traditional cultural property in July 2001. This was the first of seven observatories on this Sky Island. <. In 1873, Mount Graham was removed from the boundaries of the San Carlos Reservation and placed in public domain. VATT is part of the Mount Graham International Observatory and is operated by the Vatican Observatory, one of the oldest astronomical research institutions in the world, in partnership with The University of Arizona . Collaborating with the Steward Observatory, the Vatican Observatory built the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) on Mt. OAK FLAT, AZ - Jan. 10, 2021: Former San Carlos Apache Chairman Dr. Wendsler Nosie addresses Apache Stronghold on January 10 . From a hillside behind St. Peters Basilica, Vatican astronomers studied the heavens, taking part in an international program to map the whole sky. The 1.8 meter Alice P. Lennon Telescope and its Thomas J. Bannan Astrophysics Facility, known together as the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT), is a Gregorian telescope observing in the optical and infrared which achieved first light, the first starlight to pass through the telescope onto a detector, in 1993. Vatican astronomers used some of the facilities of Steward Observatory, but in 1993 the 1.8-meter Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) opened on Mount Graham in southeast Arizona. They burned books and writings of other cultures as their ships circumnavigated the globe raping and pillaging other cultures riches. These narratives have include controlled opposition stories of scientific breakthroughs by Copernicus, Newton, Kepler and Galileo who all had their findings vetted through the Royal Society of England, who validated scientific theory through the 19th century, as well as the Vatican. As far back as the Vatican Observatory is a unique meteorite collection from which a knowledge the... 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