He had power ranger figures, they had to be set up in a specific and certain way on his bedside table. I paid for his lawyer. Hmmm. I want a proper investigation to be done and NK become a POI until proven otherwise. I have never cheated with a married man out of respect for my sisters but this marriage was all ready wrecked like chris and this monster. + 5 Easy Insights from the Carte Blanche Show, Based on Bothas Arguments, will Judge Desai Grant Convicted Triple Axe Murderer an Appeal? He obviously was using both vehicles for various and a sundry things clothing changes, for dating purposes and whatever he put in and/or took out on the day he was caught running under the garage door and into the house. About. Or is he supposed to be pleased with himself now cause she was not an angel? That must suck to only get joy from lying and tearing down other women. Nobody knows Stephen Paddocks motive 6 months after Las Vegas. Really? (these things drive me crazy when I cant remember where I saw or read different things! Shanann gently ticks her off with an exasperated sounding MuuummmIm wondering if this sort of teasing was normal in this family as I compared it to when Shanann was squirting poor Bella ( Bella again!) Shanann, Bella, and Celeste were discovered shortly afterward at the Anadarko Petroleum site, Watts' place of employment. Now we dont know that for sure, but consider what we do know: According to Bishop, the leasing company took back Shananns 2016 Lexus, and because it was too old to be leased out any further, they auctioned it off. There was a mirror and art piece that I recognized from her videos in Colorado. However, he has leased many vehicles with good mileage in good condition that are over 6-10 years old. That she was so caught up in something, it swallowed her up, and encouraged the swallowing up and wholesale consumption of others, so that while this was happening, she was blinded to not one, by many obvious realities. Or are they kidnapped and used in this sick psyop? Wow, you think very highly of yourself. All of the dog handler reports are in the document dump. Shannan had hell to deal with with Chris family while alive, least we can do is leave her at peace now shes dead. You may just strain your eyes looking down your nose so much. Its vulgar too. Oh dear, Frank Rzucek.Indeed he looks a bit of a lad. Put simply, Shanann was advocating spending beyond their means as a way of promoting a product, and using the idea of living beyond ones means [as a sort of dream-come-true fantasy] as a sales hook. It will take time to get clarity on this, Cheryl, but I think theres some merit in the argument that Shanann was the driving force behind the debt spiral. Thoughts. Too long in my view. On Websleuths the contention has been made that Shanann was co-owner of a car accessory company based in Fayetteville, North Carolina called Dirty South. The shallow grave she had been placed in had been dug by Watts with a shovel. Dirty South Customs = Shananns Dirty Little Secret? What really jumps out is the debt and oddly enough, things HER mother has said (again mom in the flesh speaking on YOUTUBE). STRANGE persons research a murdered womans past . Thanks to Shananns grotesque death and dumping of her body like trash at CERVI 319, Thrive have likely seen a windfall of sales over the last four months leading up to Christmas. I doubt their actions would have been any different if he had tried to marry NK and God knows how that would have ended if they hated her too. If true, I believe Shananns juggling the books in North Carolina caught up with her and could have been the reason for the hasty move to Colorado (according to the buyer, she left all of the furniture behind). An Oscar for the Great Pretender [WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC IMAGES], Be bravemake your voice heard, your physical you seen and the presence of your mental you felt. Reeva Steenkamp [WARNING GRAPHIC CRIME SCENE PHOTOS], Oscar Pistorius Sentencing July 6 [LIVE COVERAGE], Oscar Pistorius Sentencing Hearing: Day 2 [LIVE COVERAGE], Oscar Pistorius Sentencing Hearing: Day 3. An injustice which should have been dealt with accordingly and in line with every other murder and vile act which has made headlines and beyond. You have all your facts wrong. Think about it. No, Ronnie asked to FaceTime on August 10. Thanks again for all the hard work. This is for Shanann. Chris Watts: Its time to talk about Why. And hed just have to convince her that they truly did leave him, and now hes totally free. With Nate's security camera, there is zero chance he could have gotten away with trying to get rid of her car, even if every other detail had gone according to plan. I noticed that two people in particular grew up in households with a bi-polar mother. If youre all trying to find a good reason for all this, look more into that. Did Shanann do something, and youre protecting her. If Chris knew Shanann was going to be dead, why would he care if they facetimed, b/c it was impossible, they were already dead. Maybe if Chris had more love and support for that marriage with Shannan from his family in the first place things may not have gone this far with him disposing of them like dirt. lol OK, Most of the people that live on their social media accounts trying to create a perfect picture of their lives are doing exactly what she was, so that would make more than half the population sociopaths too, except they all are not trying to sell a product online like she was. Chris Watts ' pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and daughters Bella and Celeste went missing on Aug. 13, 2018, after she missed a doctor's appointment. Texas Police Report Almost 400 Car Accidents Due to Icy Conditions . Shannan had a public FB page in order to use it for business. Do you know of any? Watts, who had initially reported them missing and had made a public plea for their return, was arrested as he admitted to killing them. Omeprazole was given to Cece bc she was born with a collapsed esophogus. Its creepy to see people defaming a deceased women who cant defend herself. Boy, arent you mother of the year. Nope, just a total bitch trying to make herself feel better because she has feelings of inadequacy, and most likely, a shitty mother too, which is why you have to make other mothers look shitty. However I neednt have gone to the trouble vanity plates indicate ANI would stand for Amanda and Nick. More from her mother I would think, than her dad. Now, its probably important to head off the counters to these counters, one of them being that the Watts vehicle was part of a hire-purchase arrangement, and that eventually they would become the owners of the vehicle. Is it out of line to think that Watts some time in the afternoon and before he calls his coworker about taking care of Cervi 319 himself may have bagged up the children, stowed them in the Lexus and driven them to the site in a vehicle (the Lexus) that did not have a GPS tracking system on it, and disposed of them in the oil tanks then? During this discussion he briefly talks about Shananns being accused of embezzling money during her time there as a bookkeeper (Im speculating this is what she did), but then quickly glosses over this troubling information by stating shes still friends with her former Dirty South boss. That makes Chris unconscionable monster, not his victims. It was a 2016 Lexus SUV, it was only 1 1/2 years old upon her death, that is not too old to be leased again. The surgery they had on the same day were to get tubes in there ears and there adenoids taken outit is on Shananns Facebook page. Its outrageous to see people defaming the victim of murder. Strange family? I also imagine that she rationalized she would eventually restore the money in much the same way she likely rationalized she would catch up on the finances in Colorado when the MLM delivered on its easy money fantasy. Her and her daughter asked to be responsible for sending out letters inviting guests to Chris and Shannans wedding and they failed to do that, purposely (people Shannan had invited did not turn up and claimed to have never got those invitations). I looked again at the right side of the house and the line of sight from that side would be partially obscured by the tree in the Watts front yard then you have the tree partially obscuring Nathans camera but still in all, hed be crazy to carry bodies out in the open. Can Vincent van Goghs ear be rescued from the towering haystack of mainstream mythology? Henris lack of motive might sway the Supreme Court. ANALYST, Britains youngest double murderers provide psychological code for Henri van Bredas motive, and vice versa [ANALYSIS]. In his mind. Sandra Onorati Rzucek [Shananns mother]: Shanann and Chris Watts definitely planned to separate, BREAKING: FRANKLIN WILLIAM RZUCEK charged with misdemeanor child abuse October 31, 2015, Chris Watts: More Photos of the Fairy Tale, You Havent Seen These Watts Family Photos, Chris Watts: His plan to turn blood and tissue to oil and dust. The Lexus was usually parked inside the garage while Chris Watts truck was invariably outside [the vehicular equivalent of him not sleeping in his own bed, but in the basement]. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Why did Mark Minnie go to Theescombe on the morning of his death, and what does it mean? Then you ARE AN IDIOT. A 17 year old? Over the past month or so, Chris Watts has been villainised [not without good reason] and Nichol Kessinger villified, particularly on social media. On August 21, when detective Baumhover contacted Atkinson, she was getting ready to do a night shift as a nursing assistance at Mesa Vista Nursing Home in Boulder, a short drive west of Frederick and Erie. I believe it was auctioned off because they could get a better price. By Jeff Truesdell. He doesnt look like Chris at all. However the dog did not give the full confirmation alert and so police were not able to get a warrant for the truck based on cadaver dog at that time. Rohde Trial: Mirror, Mirror on the Wall, Who is Character Assassinating Who? Watts' work truck was outside during a hailstorm, one Shan'ann filmed, while "her" vehicle was in the garage. Everyone was alive until shortly before he left because cadaver dogs did not alert in the house, which they would have had anyone been killed prior to early Monday morning. Shanann, 34, and daughters Celeste, 3, and 4-year-old Bella were reported missing Monday afternoon, . But, Shannon had neck surgery and was gulping down Oxy constantly. Lastly please tell me how and where you got this information. They cant stop people from talking. Thank you. Please call me on 0767950871 Im almost done building a new social media platform called CRIMEBOOK. She didnt deserve to be murdered and neither did her girls. #Rohde What did Drama, but OK actually mean? Dirty South Customs = Shananns Dirty LittleSecret? Bishop describes Shananns vehicle as leased, and given to her by Thrive as part of an auto bonus. Remember Thrive? Its bizarre to see the public ignore what we known beyond a shadow of a doubt, and pretend theyre confused by words from a psychopath, his family and people he influenced, ONLY! First time posting, not sure if my comment is stuck in moderation or what. What do the stats say? As you point out, the requirement for selling MLM products is to promote a luxurious lifestyle, even when it involves living precariously beyond your means. I suspect Bishops contention that the Lexus was a lease is true, and have suspected that for some time, but is there any proof of this? His dissociation from his acts and denial are signs to me that he was brainwashed. Her . Reading the transcripts again and honing in on the things Nichole K. said it sounds like she gave mixed messages to the investigator but more importantly to Watts. It has been awhile backI think I saw this shortly after news of their deaths broke and I saw that they were from NC. The babysitter said once that Bella was v upset because her mum ( Shanann) had told her CeCe could die if she ate cocoanut. Well. your= possessive (bite your tongue). And fyi, coconut is NOT in the bar she gave CeCe. The evidence is in the actions, not the words, dear. Its marketing gold, and it mainlines into the greed/envy/ego aspect of a person. The Discovery Documents are unambiguous about Watts not only backing up his truck onto the driveway on the morning of the disappearance, but that witnesses had observed the Lexuss rear hatch was open at the same time. She dabbled. In the meantime, maybe you could try and find God or Jesus, because with that attitude, youre going to have a hell of a life and marriage, or marriages. If so, whose children are these anyway? Shan'ann Watts Tribute Video: "Someday we will all be gone, but lullabies go on and on" Shan'ann talks about spending "quality time" with Chris Watts "I don't know if we're gonna have another baby anytime soon" Just a day in the life of Shan'ann Watts Was Shan'ann a *genuine* person? Your all very bored it seems. Watts, a 33-year-old Colorado oil worker, killed his wife, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, along with his two daughters aged three and four on August 13, 2018. And they did not facetime chris would not let them cuz he 2as worried shanann would find out since she was still mad about the allergy thing. Then Ill shut up for a while. Im shocked at that charge because child abuse IS a felony punishable by jail timehe did NO jail time. There may be charges out there but were simply unable to locate them. One way to address that, besides through the semantics in the Discovery Documents [the word lease isnt used multiple times accidentally], is to look at former employees and to see what they say about their experience with MLMs. Im a nurse and Ive also wondered if Shanann was a bit subject to having Munchausen by Proxy. And in fact he goes straight there with no stops. An Amber Alert was not issued due to Shanann Watts' car being found . I wish I could be there the day he does it to you, like he did it to his wife. ( I have lupus too and have managed fine, modern treatments are v good and I keep it quiet. 25 Feb/23. . If Shanann was speaking on Watts behalf, telling everyone he was shopping for a new luxury car, when it was actually her auto bonus, her business, and her aspirations [or promotional aspirations], then she was representing an acquisitive ability that wasnt merely a gross exaggeration, were able to see in the discovery dump that it wasnt true. On page 553 Det. In case youre an even bigger moron than you sound, that would be you.manipulating bitch, because she expects him to support their children. The Discovery Documents, however, disagree with Shananns claim that Nickole had quit her job in May or June 2018. The incident with the peanuts just sounds like Cindy found their health issues an inconvenience, just like she showed her attitude for the catering of the wedding and anything else they trusted her with. Might she have in a mixed message sort of way conveyed to him that he was still flawed in her mind because he came with extra baggage children? I know that we cant overanalyze everything and that a childs behavior can be indicative of many different things (or nothing at all) but I couldnt help wondering if Ceces seemingly constant mischief, tantrums, etc. Everything had a place and it HAD TO BE IN THAT PLACE. It also took until her funeral to confirm the spelling of her name, and her exact name: Shanann Cathryn Watts. If she thought her grandchildren were in danger, there were other ways to intervene. To start, why dont you read the article: Women Who Hate Other Women: The Psychological Root of Snarky. But Shanann was using Chris Watts Facebook as an additional profile, if you will, to market, promote and sell Thrive products. The suburban Denver crime began with the disappearance of a pregnant Shanann Watts and the couple's two children, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Where you there? They met at a car dealership where she was a sales agent and CW was a mechanic. I believe that people who are raised in this kind of environment are extremely tolerant of toxic behaviours and personalities. So far I dont believe details have emerged about this dark period in Shananns life in North Carolina; however, it seems to mirror her approach to finances and life in Colorado. Let Chris Go Back to Being a Master mechanic that he was! I think so. This I do disagree with. The Discovery Documents also provide fascinating insight into how Watts changed his parking habits at the time of the murders, not only in terms of the truck [which was normally parked to the left of the front door, and Watts typically exited the house through the front door], but the Lexus as well. just bc NK went to bed with a married man does not make her a murderer. At 1:03 Bishop mentions everyone wanting to know what happened to Shanann Watts car.. But there have been no buyers, according to Realtor.com. @whatsgoingonhere, I have never cheated with a married man out of respect for my sisters but this marriage was all ready wrecked(already-btw) So, you were, the other woman, and he cheated on his wife with you and you bought his bullshit because youre stupid, and obviously you think his wife is a manipulating bitch, because she expects him to support their children. At What Point Was Chris Watts DONE With THRIVE? one thing he said to me that always stuck Atkinson appears to shed a tear on camera, thats how moved she is by her achievement, and the honor of being recognized by her MLM peers. I wouldnt be surprised if Chris isnt on work release at the same hospital soon. a car accessory company based in Fayetteville. Her family says she had a seizure but thats not true as her license wasnt suspended and thats standard following a seizure (whether it occurred while driving or not). Its shocking that she was hired by a childrens hospital, being a career criminal and all.. Genuis! Cant find any information about it. This is not only irresponsible journalism but it is downright Character assassination. His truck could not fit in the garage; which is why he was only able to back it in so far when removing the bodies. THE TRUTH ABOUT SHANANN'S LEXUS CAR BONUS | ANTIMLM The Recovering Hunbot 10.5K subscribers Join Subscribe 883 Share 30K views 1 year ago #ShanannWatts #AntiMLM #Le The multilevel marketing auto. When he is in his cell, he has little to. One cadaver dog showed interest in the Anadarko work truck parked out front. And she wasnt doing any favors by drinking that slop and wearing THRIVE patches at 16 weeks pregnant, either. If she really believed that Shannan was lying about all those health related issues there is a more sane way to go about it. Remember how Nicole said that O.J.s beatings usually came as a result of her giving him a hard time about his cheating? Same reason she used Chris FB account too to post about her life and Thrive, to reach more people, therefore hopefully more customers. Get a life loser. Its a Nice Place to Live! I dont know if she had it changed legally. 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